What are anti-establishment parties, and what do they have to do with populism? Can they also be technocratic? How have they been evolving over time? Are all parties equally credible when they produce a political message against the status quo? Can ‘normal’ parties become populist? We discuss all these issues – but also the evolution of the German AfD, Margaret Canovan, and the populist Zeitgeist – in this interview with Bartek Pytlas.

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